acpizza ([info]acpizza) wrote,
@ 2007-07-03 23:18:00
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Impossible Manure Accident in Rockingham County
5 people -farmers- in rockingham county died in a pit. supposedly of methane generated from liquid cow manure... methane is far lighter than air and wouldn't accumulate that way.

Is someone not seeing the whole picture (was there a murder? Another cause of instant death?), or is the media changing the details to miseducate the public - keep people from making deadly manure traps, whatever...

I wanna know!

Something clogged the drain. What was it? Did it release deadly gas of another type?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/ap_on_re_us/methane_deaths
BRIDGEWATER, Va. - Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy farm's manure pit killed five people — a Mennonite farmer who climbed into the pit to unclog a pipe, and then, in frantic rescue attempts that failed, his wife, two young daughters and a farmhand.
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"They all climbed into the pit to help," Sheriff Donald Farley said.

Farmers typically take pains to ventilate manure pits where methane often gathers. A family member questioned whether cattle feed could have trickled into the pit and accelerated the formation of the gas.

"You cannot smell it, you cannot see it, but it's an instant kill," explained Dan Brubaker, a family friend who oversaw the construction of the pit decades earlier.

Scott Showalter, 34, apparently was transferring manure from one small pit to a larger holding pond on Monday evening, the sheriff said.

About once a week, waste is pumped from the roughly 9-foot-deep pit into a larger pond. When something clogged the drain, Showalter shimmied through the 4-foot opening into the enclosure, which is similar to an underground tank. He would have climbed down a ladder into about 18 inches of manure.

"It was probably something he had done a hundred times," Farley said. "There was gas in there and he immediately succumbed."

Believing Showalter had suffered a heart attack, police said, a farmhand followed him moments later and also passed out.

That's when another farm worker alerted Showalter's wife, Phyillis.

"The family took off to try to get him," said Sonny Layman, who rents a house on the farm. "Phyillis threw the phone out at me and asked me to dial 911." Layman instead followed her and two of the Showalter's four children.

By the time he got to the pit a few feet away, "They were all gone, except Phyillis."

Layman said he tried to pull the woman out of the pit but could not. She died, along with daughters Shayla, 11, and Christina, 9, and farmhand Amous Stoltzfus, 24.

The Showalters' two surviving daughters were being cared for by family members.

On Tuesday, a cousin of Scott Showalter's questioned whether runoff from a pile of brewer's grain had accelerated the formation of the gas. Scott Showalter had been using the grain to feed his cattle.

"It rained, and some of it ran down into this holding pit, it fermented and made a toxic gas," said Bruce Good, who saw Showalter about once a week.

Whether the victims suffocated from the fumes, drowned or died of another cause might never be known. No autopsies were planned, in part because investigators were satisfied that the deaths were accidental, the sheriff's office said.

The deaths struck hard in this picturesque farming region dotted with red barns, gleaming silos and church steeples that peak above rolling fields.

The Showalter clan is well known in the community where neighbors do each other's laundry. On Tuesday, friends tended to the family's animals.

"The cows have to be milked twice a day, even in an ordeal like this," said Frank Showalter, Scott's great uncle, standing a few feet from where his relatives died.

The Showalters milked 103 cows on their farm west of Harrisonburg in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley. They belonged to a conservative Mennonite church whose members shun many of the trappings of modern society but drive cars, use telephones and, according to police, take modern farm-safety precautions.

Fellow church members were in shock Tuesday, said the Rev. Nathan Horst, a Mennonite bishop.

"We've never had a tragedy of this magnitude," he said.

Stoltzfus had moved to Rockingham County from the Lancaster, Pa., area less than a year ago and was taking a class to join the church.

"He was very full of life," Horst said.

Doug Michael, a childhood friend of Scott's, described him as a dedicated farmer and a family man.

"Scott was a very likable young man, very friendly, always going out of his way to help anyone who needed a hand," Michael said.


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update
[info]acpizza
2007-07-04 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Yahoo News changed the headline to "Exact cause of Va. farm deaths unknown"

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Re: update
[info]os
2007-07-08 09:07 pm UTC (link)
your series of tubes icon is beautiful.
-orangesquid

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[info]friedapearl
2007-07-04 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeesh. I don't know if it was foul play or not, but I almost hope so because it would make being smothered by fumes in a shit filled hole a lot less ignominious of an end.

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I smell bullshit
[info]acpizza
2007-07-04 05:27 pm UTC (link)
http://www.google.com/search?q=methane+toxicity

Methane not only wouldn't build up in a pit, the fact that its not lethal at all is all over the web.

However, that doesn't mean that there are not other components of sewer gas that are quite deadly and are also heavier than air.

Maybe someone put something in the pit. What is in that pipe? Maybe the runoff from the feed contained some chemical that increased the production of nitrogen oxides or hydrogen sulfide by the bacteria.

At the very least, methane gas is getting a bad rap here.

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[info]acpizza
2007-07-04 06:06 pm UTC (link)
The other thing thats interesting is that carbon dioxide is one of the heavier gasses produced by the bacteria in this shit, and it tends to produce an instant reaction - a feeling of suffocation - when breathed.

Removal of oxygen doesn't produce that feeling, which is why it can get ya by surprise if the oxygen is displaced.

Also worth noting is that CO2 is one of the heavier gasses produced by the shit bacteria. It seems to me likely that regular shit-gas would have left them coughing and sputtering.

It also seems really likely that a chemical added to the feed mixed with the liquefied shit and produced something not normally produced at all.

Who knows.

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[info]dk
2007-07-06 03:14 am UTC (link)
i know it's not on topic, but...

and was taking a class to join the church.

???

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[info]acpizza
2007-07-06 03:16 am UTC (link)
That is odd!

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